February 15, 2010

Not true thing of the day #1

Filed under: Uncategorized — admin @ 10:05 am

Given that 100% of the votes on the last post found the subject interesting to them, and it is also interesting to me (if for no other reason than to see how long the list will be), I have decided to make this a continuing theme.  I suspect there will be some overlap between the assertions.  Hopefully, that will not be boring.  I think it will be useful to get a better sense of the number and form of the propositions I was asked to accept as true because of the witness of the Spirit (until I wasn’t).  These posts will be interspersed with the main narrative arc of the blog as things progress.


Assertion:  Lehi’s family made landfall on the American continent in the area of Chile.

Reality:  This is not at all supported by archeological evidence.  At best, the most likely candidate in South America is the Isthmus of Tehuantepec.  They sure had a long walk if they landed in Chile.  From what I can tell, the truth is that some Mormon authorities taught (perhaps deniable as official doctrine) that they landed in Chile.  Even though I was taught this as true, it probably isn’t, and it arguably isn’t actually even doctrine.


  1. I have a couple of questions.

    – Not only were you taught these things, but you ostensibly taught them to others, also. Were you successful at converting anyone during your mission? How do you feel knowing that you led others down a path that you’re realizing may be untrue? I think there should be a form letter you send out to people you converted, saying that the person who led them to believe what they do currently does not believe it for himself. :)

    – At what point do you think you’ll have identified enough untruths to consider yourself deMormoned? It seems as though you’re focusing on things that are untrue about the Mormon church and haven’t yet talked more broadly about Christianity itself. Is that coming, too?

    Comment by Cris — February 15, 2010 @ 2:02 pm

  2. *snip* shoot me an email when you get a chance at *snip* I want to shoot you a thought but not on a public comment and I dont have your email. (Just FYI its not a bad comment either) Thanks.

    Comment by Jason Heilpern — February 15, 2010 @ 11:48 pm

  3. I would encourage you to go ahead and make your comments on the blog. I promise, Cris doesn’t really bite that hard.

    Comment by admin — February 16, 2010 @ 8:38 am

  4. I don’t remember being taught that the landing was in Chile…of course your generation of teachers were…let us say “creative” in all their classes :)

    Comment by Terra — February 16, 2010 @ 8:59 am

  5. OK here is my comment. When I read your postings I am having a hard time understanding what you are wanting to accomplish here. Are you trying to convince other mormons to leave the Mormon faith? Are you trying to explain why you have left the Mormon faith? Are you just sharing your thought process and internal struggle with leaving the Mormon faith? Are you still trying to convince yourself that your decision in right/wrong?

    Knowing what you are trying to accomplish would be helpful in putting your posts into context.

    Comment by Jason Heilpern — February 16, 2010 @ 9:36 pm

  6. @Terra – The source for that teaching was our mother =)

    @Jason – Thanks for bringing this up, I do want all readers to be able to understand what the purpose this is. Please note the links at the top of the page; Setting a tone, About this blog, and What I want. If you have any questions that are not covered in those sticky links, please do feel free to ask.

    Comment by Matthew — February 17, 2010 @ 6:49 am

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